+1, an outnumbered group has no chance of winning now due to lack of damage, rez abuse usually on the other side's favor, each player's Warclaw dismount doing more damage than most power skills, etc. no, now outnumbered group (like 15-20 players against 30-40) is better with this patch than before, because now u have to synchronize ur burst or u will kill nobody, in huge group before the patch, stab on 10 players carried bad guardian, now if u have a bad guardian you can see it, before patch winds of disenchantment was so broken blob have just to rush with full bubbles and rollface now it's not possible anymore. for me with u can less rollface than before(support is harder, dps same), it's a realy good patch now for the wvw was realy good, just delete(or balance) broken tank stat like minstrel, trailblazer and full shit with too much stat and it will be very enjoyable.