I'm sorry, but it seems like you've completely missed the point of this discussion. Whatever (or whoever) Norns are, they obviously have human bodies, and we think that their ingame models are (a)poorly done and (b)need more customisation options (both shapes and textures). Let's have a look at Braham, for example, because you can see his image just on the right side of this particular page at the moment, which is kinda funny, isn't it? He's a young athlete afaik, which is in line with his anatomy on some beautiful official concept arts (dispaying, among other things, his gorgeously muscular chest): — but in-game Braham instead has a generic swollen ~50-150 y.o.-ish :# norn body (which is the only possible appearance for player models atm, even if you can apply some minor, unsignificant changes). And if you can't see that body under Braham's fancy outfits, or refuse to examine thoroughly your own character's physique, i have a pic of my norn's weird chest (what's that? lil boobies?), so please 'take a look': And that's just a tiny part of what is a problem with norn males' anatomy, textures and animations.If you like it like that, well, good for you, dear, cause you already have it! And some ppl here simply ask for more diversity, which doesn't mean we want them norns look 'more human', no way. We want them look 'less ape', for Raven's sake! :p I mentioned norn females just for comparison, to define a 'good work'.