Akdeoni.4062

Wow thanks for more insight on refining the speculations, clearly you had stated the speculations are less likely with both developers logs and corrections on the "terms and conditions of the grammar use ascension, ascended, ascendant", and to top it you even provided canonical and none canonical sources. Well thanks again for the correction, got mix up with GW:EotN and Kormir's godhood part to abaddon's demise.Also you mention absence of the gods in writing or in play, that is highly suspicious of Cantha's means to handle these changes and they are not disclosing it in open canonical records, some non written blanks to work with here. As for Weh no Su, again its just a delicious blank that could be fill in.( to be honest by GW1:Factions time its already a waning practice that few proceed with. And it might be even be die out and made irrelevant by GW2 time).Now that you mention Kuunavang's ability on gift. It does reminds me of the Zephyrite uses Glint air magics, sure another blank waiting to be filled here. As all speculation goes until actual further information, it would only be a speculation. All that is sure is something down south is brewing else why "end of dragons" right!

Yes, the Canthan do perform Weh no Su for ascension rites, and I understand Kormir's ascension to godhood might be a different affair entirely, but again there are no direct stated distinction between the two are entirely different either, so I wouldn't dare claim ANet folly on that perhaps its really a very general term instead? 3 points of speculation here are: 1) A general speculation that ascension would simply means a being are now capable of handling an more than they are born with to be able to handle, regardless of the amount energy they actually form upon an aspect. In Komir case it might be more extreme immediate case, in part due to the situation in GW1 calls for it, but it was not perfect as we know in GW2. 2) I believe the only mentions of Komir's ascension in Cantha was that they noted and celebrated the ascension. Before the rise of Orr and the cut off. There are no mentions that Weh no Su wasn't affected by it. That uncalled surge of energy, might led to improvise if not dangerously unstable "added on solutions" to current ascension rites due to red tape that Imperial Cantha are famous for, which is now further upset by all to mess in the north In respect to the above and the current affairs on Tyria, We can likely speculate the whole system had already been badly upset and unbalanced with dead dragons and dead gods, and Weh no Su being part of the system are likely not spared unaffected.

I like where you're going with this. Particularly the idea that the Emperor may try to ascend. We don't know where the tradition of Canthan royal ascension comes from. Perhaps the ED cycle is the catalyst and the Elders are, inadvertedly, juicing up the Canthan leader? To juice it up a little here a slightly more holistic speculation for the cycles and the relationship of Tyria and Cantha. Just for reads. Of Cantha AscensionThe records for the dragon empire emperor ascension as a requirement before becoming ascend to throne was surprising rather recent one, it is mentioned they get their source of ascension for pre-historical ancestral origin(it predates the current departed gods). Of the Origin of Ley-energiesIn fact, I had a strong suspicion the ascension rites in both Cantha and Tyria might be the addition conditioning the world to handle the ley-energies related balancing, on top of those born on the World of Tyria. Speculations of prior cyclesAs time passes this energies accumulated in a myriad of beings who are able to handle and these become the dragons, giants, seers, mursaats...as they consume more of these energies they create aspects to prevent others to conditioning these wild unstable energies, this in turn create a huge void thus starving the world of energies to maintain normal functional seasons without unstable energies intervention/devastations. Disaster happen when these powerful aspect beings dies, control over their aspect energies goes amok and can only be consume fast enough by those who are able to, else the world would revert to a mass of un-aspected chaotic mess. Speculations of nature of cyclesThis economy resulted in an energy starvation/void cycle. This allows conflict grow increasing in devastation. Some(giants) die out or shrunk(stone folks, human), while others(dragons) tide it out and slow down the lose of this energies waiting for another surge to happen, some(Seers, Mursaats, Forgotten) hold them in their respective aspect mist pockets be it memories or bloodstone. only allow a manageable amount to seep back to the world eventually, until the system comes into conflict. Of rite difference in Tyria and CanthaThe last was a bit of the world returning to its original conditioning, this is where human and the current cycle of gods come about. They abide the ascension rites as it is original system to handle the energy transfer to those who can handle. The only difference is the Cantha rite source might root itself from an older aspect channeling cycle and strengthen by the current one. (This would be the speculated problem for EOD, elaborate later in "Speculations on the Cantha threat"). While the Tyria/Elona ones uses the six gods as the aspect channeling cycle building on top of the older cycles including conditioning of the seers and mursaats. Of deeds of GodsEventually, the gods uncovered and realized the problematic nature of these energies when some of their own begin to misbehave, most decide to the departure to get these huge and aspect energies they carry, but these was not entertain by those beloved by followers and those that can't part with their followers, and those who simply just brute force believing absorbing those energies, in strong believe he is an ultimate hero to save the day. And the happenings in GW1, shows the energy imbalance had grow more pronounce with both departing gods and weh no su "attempts"** to containing it, with one god endearment resulted in GW2 new cycle of excess of runaway energies, and all are in to contest state. Of Dragons and current affairsSurely, the dragons knew whats up, much like those departing gods they also have their way to handle/aspecting these energies in contest, some of them just aspecting these energies back to the world without consideration of the willingness of the rest of the world. While other dragons seeks a compromise believing the leftover energies are able to be contain by the remain lifeform without forcing aspect as cycles before. Speculations on the Cantha threatGiven the earlier context it is likely Weh no su might eventually gone runaway, highly possibly grow into a "semi sentient mass of ley-energy hungry entity".In fact, they have a lot lesser aspect conditioning in compare to those in the north in part due to dragon aspecting huge reservoir(which is currently being overcapacited), plus the lesser amount lesser aspected beings(humans). As mentioned the northern surge might throw this system out its capacity of handle. And this might be how our story comes to play. ConclusionIn Conclusion, these basic speculations are on arrangement of current available information, please study for your own pleasure.

I have a feeling "Imperial Cantha" silence/Xenophobic isolation attitude are not entirely a great news for our side, we might be facing an overwhelming invasion from "Imperial Cantha" this time, given the recent civil war noises up far in the north. Upfront target might be Elona/Istan(they are closer and are still recovering) or Domain of wind(old scores). likely using dragon and non-human extermination as an excuse and/or at the false pretense of sending humanitarian aid while actually executing overwhelming occupation forces, given the emperor himself might had alternative means or ways to channel/consume these runaway leyline/dragon energies for direct use(something down the Kormir line of ascension), this also reflect why in trailer the dragons themselves are threaten even far down south and their are seeking unlikely allies up north.. help to fight against something more hungrier and unstable than the dragons and gods combine.

Actually, being a returning player after being out since just before the start of flame and frost(they mentioned they are changing the way they going to bring in episodic and related seasonal content to a more robust packaged system). I had to agreed that is very messy those pre LW days. I personally felt the huge disjoint when in come to the storyline especially with characters rooted from those episodes in mid and late LW1, I find it hard to relate to the events transpires in between. I also noted in wiki, Anet had been actively made attempts to recover some portion of LW1 in terms of recollections(E.g. Visions of the Past: Steel and Fire), personally I really hope they can recover most of the storyline characters(either as fore mentioned or even better as "extended linear plot bridging instances based off player's own recollection" not entirely tied to the open world, e.g. via the "scrying pool in eye of north", or off monuments and memorials in Lion's Arch) relatable content to fill in the void for the later players. As the gap between Zhaitan and LW2, is significate enough to create, "the awkward who's who? situation in the main plot"?? Also to suggest in favor of newer players(like OP), could Anet offer a single package offer that include all previous LW content be arranged?As the current can be confusing to players believing they are optional to main storyline instead, while in actual reality they are part of the main storyline itself. Otherwise, kudos in advance hope these can be experience in the future.