So with that logic, someone could have played WvW everyday for hours, for the last 6+ years, if they still have fun and not hate Anet and the game mode, they are still not a vet? Just looking for clairification, thats all :) yes. you got the idea. if you still dont hate anet and the game mode itself.. you still not a vet... therefore... keep dreaming with the big patch and reading all their posts about the hard work being done and soon you will become a vet.. soooooonnn