The whole point of me using that screenshot was to show that dps meter allows you to see who is not contributing. This was to support the argument that dps meter should be allowed. If you took at the time stamp at the bottom, it was very recent, so I was able to find it quickly to illustrate my point. I would need to spend more time to look for another log. I did not intend to show off dps, there is nothing to show off, many players play better than me. I realize now that the log makes it look like I'm just bragging about my damage. i don't know if that raid was a training run, it was not advertised as such. I don't know what the circumstances were, but it certainly seemed like an exp run, the boon up times were quite good. Some of these players were support, so their dps is going to be low. However, there are a few dps players who were not contributing (doing less than average damage for the class and dying to mechanics). This is why it's important to have a dps meter.