areliorn.3165

Before you always had both options in the list, with the compact option right after the deposit option by default, but with an option to move it to the end of the list, where it is harder to click by accident. Now both have been moved out of the list, right next to each other, and that option got removed.

Not quite. I think the 'deposit' button outside was a good idea, for everyone. The 'compact' button should have been configurable, like before. I can see that it could be very helpful for those that like to compact, and also to have them right next to each other (or even configurable one button for both actions?). Both 'compact' and 'deposit' are both not easily undoeable if you accidentally click them, however while all (?) players typically like to 'deposit' stuff, the same is not true for 'compact'. And, because both buttons are now, again, right next to each other, mis-clicks will happen and the consequence is really, really annoying - in a game that is supposed to be fun.

I only see the "uncommon", "rare" and "exotic" boxes. They do behave differently than a regular box: they distinguish by rarity. But aside from that: they do require players to pay using fractal currency, which they might not have enough of or even at all. Also, are there 32-slot versions of those and how can I exchange my current bags for those? Yes, those (and similar bags) are nice-to-have, and thanks for noting it, but they are not at all a replacement for a simple UI option. If this would be the intended solution it would be quite some discrimination against those with ... let me say this quite subjectively ... more self-organized inventory management.

Maybe one of the differences is that I do hide bag boundaries. I have one, big, almost-square inventory. Saves a lot of screen-area.

Oh, you know, stuff you don't want to sell, salvage-all or deposit. And I mostly only read about people being top or bottom-focussed. Am I the only one that has special places for things not only at the top and bottom, but basically all around the edges, where they are easy and most of all fast to find?

Except there was an option to move them as far apart in that menu as possible.

Invisible bags do more than prevent compacting. And I don't really want to change all of my bags either, it's kind of expensive for all slots and all characters.

I totally agree. And it seems we have at least two threads for this now: https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/117287/compact-option-again-right-next-to-deposit-option

It could be on by default, just make it an option to hide/disable/move out of the way.

You say " for about 25k damage". Do you mean in total - really not more? That must be like a percent of a percent of the health or so. I won't count that as "sufficient" either. Maybe choose another role next time?

I didn't even think of that. I just hope that they realize that someone who wants to hide 'compact' inside the cog, likely also does not want it to be the first option, let alone at a place where the most-clicked icon so far had been. :#

I placed the issue here because I see it as regression of the last patch: it was working before and now isn't anymore. Also, I think this was not intentional, as it creates lots of frustration for players, while the game should be fun to play. This leaves it being a bug.

Before today's update, both options were inside the "cog" menu of the inventory. There was a setting which players could use to place the 'compact' option either right next to or far away from the 'deposit' option. This facilitates players that just prefer to organize their inventory in different ways.Todays update pulled those two options out of the menu and made them separate buttons next to the "cog" icon. But they were both pulled out, regardless of the setting "please move that option away from "deposit", moreover, the whole setting is gone now. In effect, the "compact" option is, again, right next to the "deposit" option. For some players that's perfect. For others, it's terrible. I am one of the latter.Why it is terrible for me? Because I prefer to order my inventory in a specific way. Where ever I put items I like them to stay there. I would like to never use that "compact" option. Every time I do, I have to resort my inventory for a long time, which is very, very frustrating. I would really like that option to be inside the menu again, out of my way, where it is difficult to click on by accident.There are suggestions to "simply" use special bags. Except that is a bad idea. I already have bags, some of them account-bound. I don't really fancy crafting those expensive bags again, just for a different type. Also, all of the "non-compact"-bags also have other side-effects I do not want. Some of them prevent vendoring, some prevent depositing, for some, no 32-versions exist. I am not aware of any existing 32-slot bag that would just be a regular bag but prevents "compacting". Even if it would exist: how would I exchange existing bags to that type? Why should I be forced to use that special type and be "locked out" of bags like the Bandit Coin purse or Halloween bags, just because I do not want by inventory reordered? TL;TR: Please, please, please re-add the option to hide the 'compact' button. It wouldn't need to be off completely: maybe just add an option to have it back inside the "cog"-menu again. I really like the change of the "deposit"-button being outside, but the "compact"-button being there as well is a terrible regression for some players.

Please, pretty please realize that this is a terrible idea. Here is why: it puts an offensive skill on a defensive action. You don't always want to do damage. In fact, sometimes you have to actively avoid it. Putting this on healing means you now have to avoid healing to avoid damage, which is quite some disadvantage and was likely not intended (or was it?). Also, Grenadier is a trait that is a "must" for lots of builds, so it is not something you could easily not choose. I can understand that you likely just wanted another trigger for the falling-damage-effect, but please do not use healing. Just some things that would be really awkward with the proposed change: healing close to Subject 5 (reactor fractal) while it is shieldinghealing while running away through crowds of mobs. You might be close to dying, so you want to go fast and you want to heal yourself. Getting ooc is key to be fast. But you cannot heal, as that would hit mobs close to you, keeping you in combat a lot longerhealing being close to neutral NPCs: oops, I didn't want to kill you, only heal myselfhealing while "enemy players" being close in certain raidshealing while being invisible (and staying invisible)

First of all: thanks for the reaction! One thing I was missing is a stance on the damage-on-heal issue engineers would have. Putting a damaging skill on healing is something that puts players longer into combat or out of stealth exactly at moments they might not want to do exactly that. There are always situations when you want to heal but want to avoid damage. This comes especially if it is combined with a trait everyone using that kit would call essential. Please: reconsider combining healing with damage. It would make for terrible game-play.