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What part of it is false? Why is 2 weeks after a new expansion launch on a weekend, maps are empty? Almost daily posts about empty ghost towns and failed metas ruining the new player experience. So, enjoying the game means the blatant failure does not exist? That's a dangerous thought process my friend, not just here but in life.

Lots. Many discussions in game in fact. Were you under a rock during the LFG boycots saying "this meta sucks"? How about the "dead maps, please someone join"

Got proof? In game map chats, guild chats, squad chats, tell a different story. Would love to know where you got that "anyone who is not in the forums and in the game are enjoying the game" rhetoric from. That's just a lazy cop out of an excuse used excessively here. Most people I know in game can't be bothered with forums, some never even logged in to forums once. They sure as hell aren't happy or content with EoD.

Having starter gear from 2012 and 1-2-3 weapon rotation doesn't work in 2022 :))

Same points apply to HoT and PoF releases as well. Why did we have almost a hundred players on starting quest npcs in HoT and PoF then? If all of these points were true, HoT and PoF would have been just like EoD, a ghost town. Don't cover up low population with excuses, it doesn't work. Hard to believe some people go to such great lenghts to deny low player counts and popularity and come up with hundred reasons why it's empty :))

Here is a new player's comment from somewhere else word for word: Regardless of the cause, is that really a good look for a new expansion to be empty end deserted right after launch? Never had this problem with HoT or PoF. Map shards can't be the only problem, it's clear how tiny the EoD population is compared to before. Guess this should raise awareness on implementing gimmicks as new game mechanics instead of gliding, raids, a new class, mounts and how it affects the game's popularity.

Low population. Hardly anybody bought EoD. In my guilds, 3 very big ones and 2 medium ones, maybe 5 out 100 people are in EoD maps, doing random stuff. There is no EoD related chat or discussions in the guilds. I'm guessing it's very low on popularity and it shows.

That's just reddit hun, the one place notorious for banning/removing critical posts :) Still waiting for an answer, where is the "everywhere else other than these forums people are enjoying this game" coming from? I mean this is the offical place for discussion, it's a huge leap of faith to dismiss the actual real discussions as false and instead believe in a fantasy that "people are so happy in the game" even ignoring the in game map chats, squad chats, guild chats, LFG boycotts. If that's your idea of happy players then rip... That is bound to happen when the mods are biased fanboys who work hard to remove any criticism and only leave the positive ones on display. Looks like you belong there and not here tbh, it would be a much better fit for you.

Today. Yes, really. Every day topics like "omg anet EOD is the best thing evah" pop up, completely oblivious to how horribly this dlc pack has been received. Proof that "everywhere else other than these forums are enjoying this game" which is straight up false. There were even LFG listings in game with titles such as "DE sucks" boycotting the game. Were you asleep? Wrong. Because the map capacity is very limited, it gets full way faster than non EoD maps. Which makes the already badly designed meta even harder to complete because of all the randoms in the map not even contributing to events. That is literally the opposite of "oh gawd, maps are so full this game is insanely popular" you're trying to preach. Not even close. Low population and deserted maps for a newly released expansion are "completely false" too? I'm sure they're just figments of people's imagination.

I don't play EoD. I'm just informing potential players what they're getting into. Don't listen to apologists, enough said. "If you don't like it, leave" is another copium argument that made so many mmos fail, it's funny you don't even realize the damage you're causing to your already struggling game.

Got proof for that? I noticed especially in game squad and map chats that people don't like EoD. Most groups in LFG fail to fill because of low population. Don't know where you got that "everywhere else people are happy" from. GW2 subreddit is notorious for being a safe heaven for fanboys, mods there delete and ban everything that is even slightly not pro GW2 so not surprising it looks like people are enjoying the game over there. I mean by all means go ahead and preach "don't listen to negative feedback, they are minority" argument, it didn't work out so well for other communities like Rift, Terra, BDO, Neverwinter, SWTOR, LOTRO but I'm sure it will work wonders for GW2's population. Defending bad decisions never worked out well, I'm yet to be proven otherwise.

Did you miss the memo with 4 beta tests and lots of livestreams revealing the disappointing maps and features? It doesn't take an experienced player more than 10 minutes to recognize low quality. We've tried to warn everybody months ago but those comments were buried/deleted by other comments like "They still have 6 months to develop, they still have 3 months, they still have 2 weeks, everything will be different you'll see!" In hindsight, all this without even knowing about the day one boon and survivability nerf and the empty maps, failing metas etc. made all of this that much funnier :)

Fishing and skiffs are just useless gimmicks, horribly implemented like the jade bots. Echovald and other maps are filled with lazy designs with nothing but old assets. Hardly anyone in the maps, events and metas failing regularly because of low population and low interest. Idk man, you sound kinda new. If the new "expansion" is nothing but a sub-par dlc pack sold at full price, it's silly not to skip.

I mean you ran off from that thread without explaining yourself, which makes me believe you didn't have an argument and just wanted to "win" and prove that EoD is popular, which isn't. Anywho, what part of it was "spreading misinformation" again? I've never seen an mmo launch which had empty maps from the get go, low lfg activity an overall low satisfaction from those who bought it. Many players have expressed they have uninstalled after finishing the EoD story so technically their answer to this poll is a "yes" but is it really? It's pretty much dead as far as delivering quality content. Outside of the tiny GW2 bubble you guys are living in, majority of mmo gamers, let alone regular gamers, even know GW2 is still going. It's not more relevant to them than Rift, Terra, Lotro, Eve Online etc. Twitch presence of GW2 is humiliating. Other mmos are doing just fine before you use the "mmo games don't get livestream viewers" excuse again.

1. They put a lot of effort into the single player version of the game such as map design, story, voice acting, music but still fell short in that regard. Maps are empty not only from players but there are not enough events, npcs or overall alive feeling in the maps. Other posters have already mentioned the low effort graphical designs of the cities such as copy pasting the same assets on top of each other, not fixing clipping issues etc. A lot of the monster types and environmental designs are copy pasted from HoT. Skiffs are just a gimmick, still can't believe fishing and skiffs were the first revealed "selling points" during the EoD reveal. Skimmer is much better than skiff. Turtle mount is very disappointing as well, people only want to get it because it's new and hard to get because of the collection. They will go back to Skyscale 10 minutes after playing with the turtle. 2. Yep, hardly anybody bought the expansion. This has been the least hyped expansion yet and still managed to disappoint. Never seen an mmo with "no players around" just days after release. Trying to cover up low population with excuses doesn't really help your case. Not to mention the lack of regional pricing has prevented a good chunk of dedicated GW2 players from buying EoD. Doesn't affect me but those people who were able to buy HoT and PoF simply cannot buy because it's way more expensive compared to 5 years ago. Many have immigrated to another mmo on Steam with regional pricing and they seem very happy. 3. Then why are there still "maps are empty" threads popping out everyday? Almost all the excuses so far have been used up, need new ones other than "people are doing story" or "people are working weekdays" which have been exposed to be false already. When people are done with their turtle collections, metas will be completely unachievable for most until the boss is nerfed so much that it can be done with 10 people. Day 1 nerf of boons and survivability of classes also played a big role in players' decision to just step out of the game entirely. Some even feel cheated for buying the new expansion because this nerf was kept hidden until launch, knowing many would have cancelled their preorders. 4. That's good, I'm glad you're having fun. Though fishing has existed for more than a decade in other mmos and done in a much better way than EoD. It's not about the expansion, it's the sad trajectory this game has been put into since 2019. I guess for people who've never seen how amazing GW2 was in its golden days, it's not an issue.