So we need to make sure nobody plays any elite spec of engineer either? If scrappers are such a horrible problem for poor condi users in the game, why do we still see 10-20 scourges in all full zergs? It's not like cleanses protect you from CC. In my opinion scourge has no place in WvW and ruins the gameplay for tons of classes, making most melee gameplay void in zergs. Scrapper is mostly a scourge counter nowadays. If people get off their scourges, there'll be no need for scrappers probably.And even now, there's only a handfull of scrappers. Why is that?And as someone who plays a scrapper, even with all the cleanses, there are cooldowns which you must use to help your teammates. Eventually you will run out of them. Also you still die if you get pushed. Not even minstrel gear will help you survive if you get hit head on.If you'd like for it to be garbage, get off your scourge. Tell your friends. In a game there are counters. But scourge cannot really be allowed to "counter" about everything. THAT is horrible gameplay. The thing is, necro is an awesome class while engis don't belong in this game both thematically and mechanically. It's ridiculous how these forums defend an obviously OP out-of-place spec. Medic scrappers need a nerf. Period.