Yeah you guys got a couple of guilds that came, maybe around 200+ or so people transferred to sf. Some part of an "alliance". I do know doc, cl, tlr, and a few others are there now on both hod/sf I’m in TLR, and ya we have an alliance and we transferred recently to SF But imo, I think there are an influx of new WVW players...some from PVE that fancy the Warclaw, and some from SPVP that are sick and tired of that dieting game modeThe dieting game is strong